8th of November

Date May 28, 2006

***11/08/07***

I reposted this today. Go here if you’d like to comment. Thanks.

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Compare THIS video to the latest Dixie Chicks video…I think I’ll stick with the real musicians (the ones that still HAVE a fan base)

Sorry about the autostart, but I can’t seem to convince it not to in Firefox, no matter what I do to the code.

****UPDATE*****
Thank you SO MUCH to everyone who’s taken the time to visit, listen to the video, and comment.

****UPDATE2*****

Please, please, go read my follow-up post, with some of the background to this wonderful song. And if you know how to capture the video I linked to there, please let me know, as I would really like to post it.


**11/08/07**

I changed the video code as the old one no longer seemed to be working.

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77 Responses to “8th of November”

  1. Wild Thing said:

    Tammy this is so special. How can I ever thank you for posting this. I love your blog and you. Thank you for touching so many lives by being you.

  2. Jane said:

    wow, thats very touching.

  3. Darleen's Place said:

    Memorial Day 2006…

    “Liberty is never unalienable; it must be redeemed regularly with the blood of patriots or it always vanishes. Of all the so-called natural human rights that have ever been invented, liberty is the least to be cheap and is……

  4. Blue Star Chronicles said:

    Liberty is Never Free of Costs…

     
    If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set li….

  5. beth said:

    This is wonderful. You did a fantastic job!

  6. beth said:

    I’ve watched this 3 times. I’m spaming my email list with the addy. This is really a great video.

  7. Jean-Luc Picard said:

    That’s really good, Tammy.

  8. Karen said:

    Well, I can’t get it to work, but I assume that this is more conservative than what the “Chicks” said about the war and such. All I have to say is…can’t we all just get along? Everybody seems to be taking swipes at everyone else and it just seems kinda sad. Whether you support or don’t support the war, we should keep those who serve in our prayers…especially today.

    Michele sent me. Hope you’re having a great Memorial Day!

  9. OldOldLady Of The Hills said:

    Beautiful in every weay. Powerful to watch and to listen too, too!

  10. Valerie said:

    What a powerful video! Thanks for posting this, Tammy. God bless America.

  11. Larry Crick said:

    Incredibly moving! I feel so much gratitude for our warriors who go in our place to defend what we take for granted. God Bless us all as our nation struggles today to continue to support those who are now engaged in the same noble endeavor.

  12. Fetching Jen said:

    A beautiful and powerful reminder of the price of freedom.

  13. Geri Ann Rasmussen said:

    Thanks be to Hugh Hewitt for linking this to his web site. I am hearing the song for the 2ND time as I write–saw B&R perform this on the CMA’S last week. There are tears running down my face as I listen and watch. These young men ARE STILL REAL HEROES!!!!! Thank God for our BRAVE SOLDIERS!! Sent with MUCH LOVE AND APPRECIATION for ALL they do and have done for us. THANK YOU!!!!!

  14. Donna Meyer said:

    This is so moving. We are so grateful to these heros and those who still serve who are fighting for freedom now – - the freedom for others. My prayers are with them all. Thank you for posting this fabulous reminder.

  15. Peter D said:

    Thank you to all who have served. The Amercian spirit lives on.
    Thanks to Big and Rich for this tribute to a generation of men disenfranchised by a society in turmoil.

  16. Dennis Brown said:

    Brings tears to my eyes and a pain in my heart.Thank you for the time and trouble to post this I will be “passing it around” to all that I know.

  17. Joe Lenz said:

    Just Thanks…..

  18. John Swartch said:

    I am sorry, I am a big Dixie Checks fan, and bought the
    new CD first chance I got. Don VanSiclan is pulling
    a joke on us.

  19. Tommie Carter said:

    It’s long overdue that we recognize the hell that is war. This song brings home the travesty and loss of human lives. We need to do whatever we can to prevent these disasters for our young folks.

    Thank you for getting the message out.
    God Bless America and all of us.
    Peace

  20. Mike Flynn said:

    I really appreciate this video.  But then you see, I was with the “HERD” on this operatioon.  I was on hill 65, Operation HUMP,  and will never forget it.  Thank you for this tribute to the greatest soldiers this county has ever fielded. 

  21. Cliff Shank said:

    A wonderful and heart warming tribute to those of us that didn’t come home……Thank you

  22. Chuck Miller said:

    this song is very emotional for any man or women who has served this great country duirng war and had to endure the loss of their brothers in arms. This song brings tears to my eyes and chills to my spine when ever I hear it. This vet wishes more artist would make songs like this to make sure the average american doesnt forget why soldiers die, not for the red white or blue but for the men to their left and right.

    SFC Chuck Miller
    10th Mountain Div (Li)
    Somalia
    Bosnia
    Kosovo
    Afghanistan

  23. John Swartch said:

    I am sorry again, I thought it was a get
    the Dixie Chicks type thing. I is a great
    video. When I lived in Texas a few years
    back some of my best friends were from
    “Nam, and very nice people. Lockheed
    was nice to keep me out of the war back
    in the ’60’s, I was an Aerospece Engineer.

  24. John Swartch said:

    David Lettermen asked

    Now that al-Zarqawi is dead and gone, who is number one??

    Ann Coulter

    Sorry again!!!

  25. Charles Fore said:

    God Bless you, Big and Rich. What a contrast to the Dixie Chicks. You “get it”. Charles M. Fore, USAF 1971-1975

  26. Lou Guillen said:

    To Big and Rich I say THANK YOU .This a wonderful, moving tribute to those who serve , past and present. I think the valor and bravery of our men and women sometimes gets lost in the politics of fighting wars. As a VietNam vet, 67-68, I pray for the safe return of all those in harms way.

  27. JP Butler said:

    When its all said and done soldiers fight for each otherin their own squad or platoon and pray to god theyare able to hold it together and not let them down.
    SGT Aco 70th cmbt engrs viet nam 68/69

  28. Floyd Leach said:

    I would like to thank you for this web page. I also would like to say Thank You to all VietNam Vets, I am proud to carry on the tradtion of such brave men and women.
    US Air Force, Iraqi Freedom Vet

  29. Mike said:

    Outstanding, thank you. 101st Airborne Div., Viet Nam 1970.

  30. John Swartch said:

    I bought a great book at the outlet mall on the Res. Gerald Nicosia’s “Home
    to War” , A history of the Vietnam Veteran’s Movement. When they came home, their battle was not over. The story of one of them was made into a Tom Cruse movie. Also, I saw the Al Gore movie yesterday with foxy Michele. Right wing or Left wing, please go see, great stuff. Also saw a preview of “Who Killed the Electric Car?” coming out in a week or two, should be good., see that also.

  31. John Swartch said:

    Sorry again, the movie starred not Tom Cruse, but Jon Voight. It is “Coming Home”,also staring a favorite of many of you, Jane Fonda. It is about Ron Kovic, a wheelchair bound vet. The movie is still listed on Amazon.com. I watched Jon Vought’s daughter on CNN for two hours the other night.

  32. John Swartch said:

    I got all twisted around, it has been 20 years. The Tom Cruse movie is “Born on the Fourth of July”. It is the story of Ron Kovic. The Jon Voight, Jane Fonda movie is “coming Home”. Both great movies. Iused to go to the movies with my friend Hanh, Hanh from Siagon. A great lawer in Dallas.

  33. wmg7775 said:

    thanks for the site n background story

  34. Lowell Bittrich said:

    Thanks. It’s great.

  35. Huard Libby said:

    Tammy, and all those who have added comments, thank you. I cannot express the emotion I am experiencing as I listen to the words and music. I find it hard to even see the keys as I pound out these words, my tears blurr my vision, please accept the thanks from this twice Vietnam Vet, and one who was there as the events unfolded on the dates of this action. I was in a support unit, in the air. This is such a wonderful, emotional song, thank you again Tammy, and all those positive remarks for our present and soon to be Veterans from yet another conflict. Freedom Is Not Free. thanks much,
    Hugh

    Please, folks, don’t deface these comment pages with personal political feelings, it’s still very hard for the Vietnam Vets, we try to forgive and forget. May God richly bless our country and our military, who make it possible to write these words.

  36. John Swartch said:

    I just bought the DVD for the Tom Cruse movie is “Born on the Fourth of July”. You people got me thinking. i will look at it tonight. The Vets. of all wars need all the help they can get. In Orange County, CA there is a great monument to the Vietnamese Vets also, they did their part.

  37. Wld Bill said:

    My thanks to all who over the years have given there all.
    Great song,need more.
    Wld Bill
    82nd Division,Airborne

  38. John Reiley said:

    Definitely bought it all back into perspective , I could smell it. Thanks John Reiley Pleiku ‘69

  39. John Swartch said:

    I used to go the the movies with my friend Hanh from Siagon, sometimes bring her son and/or one of her brothers kids. We went about a mile from Valley Ranch. HQ of the Dallas Cowboys She is very nice, the movie I remember most is Hannibal with Anthony Hopkins. I sat there and looked through my fingers. She sat there a laffed, ha, ha. Even she jumped when Hannibal took off the top of the guys head and ate his brains. I have to give her a call, her sisiter is cute too.

  40. Al Conetto said:

    I was on this operation in 1965. Big & Rich have done a great job writing this song and bringing recognition to the men who served, and to the men who died.

    The soldiers I served with in the 1/503rd were the finest: well trained, professional, skilled, motivated. They were America’s future.

    Where do we get such men?

  41. Tammy said:

    I heard this very touching song and knew there was no way such a incredible story could be the imagination of songwriters. I was so moved, I was compelled to check the internet on the significance and story of the 8th of November, 1965. I write with tears in my eyes, as I have and always have had the respect of those who fought the bitter, useless battles of the Vietnam war. I only wish there was more to show for the effort than some touching but tragic stories and a lot of fallen “kids”. Thanks to Big and Rich for bringing another touching story to those of us who may not have lived it, but who respect those who fought blindly for a cause still yet to be figured out. Thanks to all of the servicemen and women who fought for all causes in every war and police action!

  42. angie said:

    This song is really touching.My uncle was killed in this battle,only 18 yrs old.I think he was in B company.The report said he was injured but refused treatment.He died because of those injuries.So many people had the same outcome.How could they be so brave?
    Where do we get such men?I personally think they come from such families.
    I give thanks to my uncle Herman Brown and all other Veterans.

  43. Rob said:

    Thank you to all those who keep this country great, and to all those that remember them

  44. Michael Mattoon said:

    To John Swartch:

    I am a vet. Not a Vietnam vet but a vet. I and I’m sure most would appreciate it if you keep your obvious arrogance and ignorant comments to yourself. Please stop apologizing, it’s so obvious and disingenuous. Stop insulting the people that sacrifice for your freedom as well as the people that support them.

  45. John Swartch said:

    Michael:

    What you say about me is not important. The important thing is a lot of Vets, like Ron Kovic and many others, felt that they got a raw deal after they got back. Now there is that thing is Iraq. Maybe these guys, and gals, will be given a better deal. Let us hope so. I am not important one way or the other.

  46. Rick said:

    I’m a ‘Nam Vet 66-68. Many thanks fo posting this most powerful music. To my knowledge it’s the only song ever dedicated to any of us.

    My brothers deserve not your pity or your tears, but rather your acknowledgment of service performed in pride and honor, and your respect.

    Well done Big & Rich, and Welcome Home my brothers. We keep the faith. RGH 6th Bn/ 4POG

  47. Jennifer said:

    Thank you for posting this video. My neighbor was wounded in this battle — his Medic received the “Blue Max” for his valor that day.

    When my neighbor heard this song on the Country Music Awards, it was the first time since returning from Vietnam – nearly 40 years, that he felt that his sacrafice and that of his peers was acknowledged in a manner that was meaningful. He struggles still with his experience. I wasn’t born when he left, so there is much I don’t understand. When I asked how to respectfully thank him for his sacrafice he offered the following:

    Say simply “thank you. If the Vet asks for what, say, and mean, thank you for my freedom.”

    Thank you.

  48. John Swartch said:

    Just a short note to say that I just saw the video on the CMT ( Country Music TV) channel this morning while switching between channels. Good stuff. I also saw the song “California Girls”, also good stuff.

  49. lance said:

    I would like to say thank you and welcome home to our Vietnam Vets. Myself being born in 73′, drives a 68′ Buick, works on Hueys on a daily basis and slotted at a Flight Medic. We are proud of our veterans and battle proven aircraft as we serve our stateside MEDEVAC missions.

    2-832nd MEDEVAC
    Hueys Rule !
    Great song and Video, sissycityboy rascalflattsshaniaDixiechick music sure gets old.

  50. Kayce said:

    I’m a daughter of a vet , my ex (and father of my son) is an active duty Navy CB preparing for his third trip to Iraq, a good friend of mine lost his right arm in Iraq and Lance (above) is a good friend of mine. The military has always a big part of my life, I have always felt the pride that some have just found in our country. The video (and song) is great but for me, I think of the war constantly on a very personal level and it is just one more thing that reminds me of the hell that my friends and family live with everyday. Sorry but when I listen to the radio or watch CMT I want an escape from reality and war. I don’t need a song or video to convince me to be patriotic. Sorry lance but even a cowgirl likes to listen to that sissycityboy rascalflattsshaniaDixiechick music sometimes!
    I give thanks every day to the men and woman that have sacrificed life, limb and precious time away from family so that I can raise my son in a safe and free country!

  51. John Swartch said:

    I bought another book at the outlet amll. This is about the best known Irag vet. Something new, a nice looking lady. I am sure we all wish thw best for Jessica Lynch. I think she is going to college in West Virginia. Go Jessica.

  52. River Rat said:

    “River Rat” is a term of honor given to one another by those that served on river boats in the “Brown Water Navy” in Vietnam. Many of us feel that the only thing criminal about Vietnam was the way we were treated upon returning to “the World”. Those scars run as deep as any left by the War. All the parades,monuments, movies and songs will not erace the sense of betrayal by our Country that many of us still feel.If you sense bitterness in this, your right.

  53. John Swartch said:

    A note from a different board:

    “I went to see The Dixie Chicks last night. They were fantastic…what a show! It was a sold out concert here in my city. All of the Chicks’s Canadian dates have sold out, but I read in the paper this morning that they’ve had to cancel some of their U.S concerts. How unfortunate. I know that there’s still fall out from Natalie Maines’s comments about the president a few years back….but really!!!!! What ever happened to freedom of speech?”

  54. Joe Niece said:

    John, Great that you saw the Dixie Chicks last night. If you think that the things that Natalie said while in another country as an perceived spokesperson of the US were correct then you did the correct thing.  Most patriotic Americans don’t think it was appropriate.  The things she said cause others to hate the US and drive others to do things against the US.  It is our freedom of speech to make her pay for her actions.  If she was in Viet Nam or Iraq or Iran, they would have tortured and killed her for saying things like that against her country.

  55. john gorman said:

    Thanks, from an old 173d airborne demolition sapper.

  56. Angie said:

    To John,
    Do you have nothing better to do than disrepect the people who fought for freedom.You arrogant little peas for brains!!!!Grow up!!!!I am not,nor never have been in the service,but I can open up a can of whoop @ss if you’d like?????

  57. Huntsman53 said:

    ” John Swartch Says:

    August 11th, 2006 at 2:34 pm
    A note from a different board:

    “I went to see The Dixie Chicks last night. They were fantastic…what a show! It was a sold out concert here in my city. All of the Chicks’s Canadian dates have sold out, but I read in the paper this morning that they’ve had to cancel some of their U.S concerts. How unfortunate. I know that there’s still fall out from Natalie Maines’s comments about the president a few years back….but really!!!!! What ever happened to freedom of speech?”

    Natalie/the ‘Chicks’ are very well experiencing the results of free speech. They’re free to say what they want and others are free to exercise their free speech by not listening.

  58. John Swartch said:

    Sorry to get you all upset. I am used to a few of the NFL boards, where you talk some trash. I ment it all in fun. I checked my CD collection, and I do have one Dixie Chicks CD from 1999, “FLY”. I proud to say that I saw Pat Tillman play some NFL football in person, I was a Arizona Cardinals season ticket holder for a few years. It was sad what happened to him.

  59. Tim Davin said:

    Tears run down my cheeks as I type. Freedom is NOT free. It is paid for by the sacrifices made by those brave enough to fight for their country and the men beside them. God Bless America. Love it or leave it.

  60. Angie said:

    Amen Tim. I heard another great song called “A Soldier Died”.It made me cry so hard.It makes you think of the true price these soldiers pay.Thanks just isn’t enough.

  61. Forrest Adams said:

    Don’t forget that the right to speakout against war, whether popular or not, is what hero’s like those depicted in this song fight and die for. To condem anyone for exercising their right to free speech does not serve their memory. America “the land of the free”.

  62. John Swartch said:

    I posted something about Jessica Lynch a few weeks ago. It turns out that she is expecting sometime in January. I am sure we all wish her the best.

  63. Angie said:

    Land of the free yes,but disrepecting a site that is honoring them is not free speech,it’s being arrogant!!!!How can people be stupid enough to write the things John writes and justify it with free speech???It is just flat out stupidity!!!!He probably thinks he is funny,not.Maybe he’s just a little slow,and doesn’t understand the word stupid?But,maybe he has no friends to keep him preoccupied and he has to go to all of these blogs to get some attention.My last comment on the idiot!!!!!!!!

  64. Rob Jones said:

    Thanks. Made my eyes leak a little bit. Reminds me how we need to be thankful for all those who’re serving now (my daughter has just finished her 8th year in the Navy) and who’ve served in the past. I’ll be damned if I’ll let our folks in the military now be treated the way we were!
    And, to River Rat, welcome home, Brother.

    Rob Jones
    Alpha Co., 4th Bttn./47th Inf. , 9th Inf. Div., US Army My Tho, Dong Tam RVN ‘68

  65. Britta Raynsford said:

    In an attempt to explain the truth behing Big & Rich’s song I stumbled on your blog. While I don’t agree with everything on the site…that is what draws me to the site. Where else can so many citizens voice thier thoughts and opinions regardless of who they upset or offend? Only in the great U. S. of A. We are so lucky to have such giving individuals to sacrifice themselves for our freedoms…

    My heartfelt thanks…from the daughter of a Veteran…

  66. John Swartch said:

    I have taken a lot of gas on this board, but I have to say that I met an old man on the bus going to the local VA Hospital. We talked a little bit, and one thing he did say is that he did appreciate the help from volunteers at the VA Hospital. If you want to show respect for the Vets of ‘Nam and the other wars, check with your local VA hospital and see what you can do. Maybe just bake some cookies. I will check myself and report.

  67. John Swartch said:

    I rented a great movie and watched it about Sophie Scholl. In 1943 she said something bad about Adolf. They cut off her head and her brother’s head and the head of a friend. The Dixie Chicks do not have it so bad. The same story is on the VHS tape, “The White Rose” Merry Christmas everyone!!!

  68. John Swartch said:

    In Flanders’ fields the poppies blow
    Between the crosses, row on row
    That mark our places: and in the sky
    The larks, still bravely singing, fly
    Scarce heard amid the guns below.

    We are the dead. Short days ago
    We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
    Loved and were loved, and now we lie
    In Flanders’ fields.

    Take up our quarrel with the foe;
    To you from failing hands we throw
    The torch; be yours to hold it high,
    If you break faith with us who die
    We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
    In Flanders’ Fields.

    John McCare, 1915

  69. Ronald Johnson said:

    I want to start by thanking you for this information. I am also an Air Force Vet and had the misfortune of being at the morgue in Dover for a little while during my 8 years of service.
    When I first herad this song all I could do was cry. Prior to hearing this song there was only one other song that I had heard about the effects of war that brought tears to my eyes and that was I Cant Write Left Handed by Bill Withers. It was written about Viet Nam , but it applies so much to Iraq. Its about an amputee. What really saddens me is that LAWRENCE JOEL the medic was also in the merchant marines at the close of ww2 and those guys get no love.They fought and died like everyone else in WW2. If you look at the time in which this battle was fought and the climate of the country.It is remarkable that he was able to keep his focus and do his job. The fact that he is the first living black man to get the CMH is disgraceful. I applaud Big and Rich for telling the story. Without getting very political
    I have far more anger for hanoi jane and Haroldo Riviera than the dixie chicks. What haroldo did was treasonous, and the fact that he wasnt dealt with sickens me. The dixie chicks just had a different point of view. That keeps the non warriers honest. Contrary to popular belief, there are no VETS that are pro war. We hate war because we have seen it up close and personal. Fortunatly the average person has never had to see it. I dont know of any combat vet who would not trade places with the kids to spare them the horrors of war.

    l

  70. John Swartch said:

    Nearly two years after that “investigation,” we finally learn
    Pat Tillman was shot three times, in close proximity, in
    the forehead, with an M-16 from merely 10 yards
    away–execution style. And that Army attorneys
    bragged in emails that they had shut down any
    real investigation. And that a three-star Army General
    “did not recall”–70 times–his actions on that day.

  71. Jerry D said:

    Great song 8th of November and for the classics Rudyard Kipling stated it well in the following poem:

    Tommy

    I went into a public-’ouse to get a pint o’beer,
    The publican ‘e up an’ sez, “We serve no red-coats here.”
    The girls be’ind the bar they laughed an’ giggled fit to die,
    I outs into the street again an’ to myself sez I:

    O it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, go away”;
    But it’s “Thank you, Mister Atkins,” when the band begins to play,
    The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
    O it’s “Thank you, Mr. Atkins,” when the band begins to play.

    I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
    They gave a drunk civilian room, but ‘adn’t none for me;
    They sent me to the gallery or round the music-’alls,
    But when it comes to fightin’, Lord! they’ll shove me in the stalls!

    For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, wait outside”;
    But it’s “Special train for Atkins” when the trooper’s on the tide,
    The troopship’s on the tide, my boys, the troopship’s on the tide,
    O it’s “Special train for Atkins” when the trooper’s on the tide.

    Yes, makin’ mock o’ uniforms that guard you while you sleep
    Is cheaper than them uniforms, an’ they’re starvation cheap;
    An’ hustlin’ drunken soldiers when they’re goin’ large a bit
    Is five times better business than paradin’ in full kit.

    Then it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy how’s yer soul?”
    But it’s “Thin red line of ‘eroes” when the drums begin to roll,
    The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
    O it’s “Thin red line of ‘eroes” when the drums begin to roll.

    We aren’t no thin red ‘eroes, nor we aren’t no blackguards too,
    But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
    An’ if sometimes our conduck isn’t all your fancy paints:
    Why, single men in barricks don’t grow into plaster saints;

    While it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, fall be’ind,”
    But it’s “Please to walk in front, sir,” when there’s trouble in the wind,
    There’s trouble in the wind, my boys, there’s trouble in the wind,
    O it’s “Please to walk in front, sir,” when there’s trouble in the wind.

    You talk o’ better food for us, an’ schools, an’ fires an’ all:
    We’ll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
    Don’t mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
    The Widow’s Uniform is not the soldier-man’s disgrace.

    For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Chuck him out, the brute!”
    But it’s “Saviour of ‘is country,” when the guns begin to shoot;
    An’ it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ anything you please;
    But Tommy ain’t a bloomin’ fool – you bet that Tommy sees!

    My Thanks to all the Vets who served so others could live free “salute”
    SSgt USAF (RET)

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  73. John Bowera said:

    B/2/503rd PIR 173rd Abn Bde Nov 67- Feb 68
    173rd Sig Co Feb 68 – Nov 68
    AATW

  74. Pat said:

    This was wonderful my husband served in Vietnam Jan 69 to Jan 70 he died 2 1/2 years ago from bile duct cancer cause from the Vietnam War this war was and still taking the lives of our men. I want to thank all the past and present veterns and may God Bless you All

  75. CHRIS said:

    VERE GOOD

  76. Gerry Haas said:

    Just surfed in from TWS site and wanted to say hello. Nice tribute all our Brothers

    “Freedom is not Free”
    We will never forget

    Semper Fi

  77. Pat said:

    My late husband was in nam and we belong to one of the biggest Vietnam Veterns groups (Howard County Vietnam Vets) I am very proud of our past, present and fucher vets. I just want to say what is always said among our group WELCOME HOME BROTHERS and now SISTERS

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